Get ready for a good time with this one, Neil. bob600 is the atheist
omprem. :P
> On Jun 30, 9:39 am, bob600 <b
...@nireland.com> wrote:
> > First my position, I am what most would consider a “strong” atheist, I
> > “know” God does not exist, that in itself has attracted some attacks,
> > so I would ask that you let it pass this one time. I have lived in the
> > heart of a divided society for 25 years, a society, given my position
> > in it, that tested my religious affiliations robustly and daily. So
> > on a daily and personal basis I experienced the “very bad” side of
> > religion. Nevertheless, and despite my strong non beliefs, I happily
> > accept and defend other people’s right to think differently.
> > For some time now I have been attacked for taking that position
> > sometimes by assholes, which I consider flattery, but sometimes by
> > others for whom I have a certain respect, and it is the criticism from
> > the latter that leads me to ask:-
> > Why is it so wrong to defend the “nice” theists who do me no harm,
> > while being happy to condemn the “bad” that potentially could.
> > Believe it or not I ask this with an open mind, and if I my position
> > is proven wrong, I will accept it, reappraise my position and admit my
> > error.
> > I leave you with an apt quote from Mahatma Gandhi, 1931:-
> > “Freedom is not worth having if it does not connote freedom to err. It
> > passes my comprehension how human beings, be they ever so experienced
> > and able, can delight in depriving other human beings of that precious
> > right.”
> You aren't depriving anyone of their freedom to err by pointing out
> their errors. You can happilly accept and defend other people's rights
> to think differently while criticizing the thoughts that they are free
> to have.
> The "nice" theists who do you no harm are doing all of us harm by
> giving tacit approval to the theists who DO cause harm. Their silence
> can only be taken to mean they agree with the harmful theists, or that
> they know they are harmful but are scared of them. Either way, they
> support the harmful theists because they aren't doing a thing to stop
> them from acting in the name of their MUTUAL beliefs, and it then
> becomes a slippery slope towards totalitarianism, theocracies, 9/11,
> the Bush administration; pick your poison. Maybe the difference is the
> nice ones should just be sweet talked out of their beliefs (though I
> suspect a lot of the nice ones might show a darker side of their
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