Can I disable conversations so I can read my messages normally?
Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
addresses equals multiple conversations.
> Can I disable conversations so I can read my messages normally?
> Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> addresses equals multiple conversations.
Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
Frankenstein's Monster email.
My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
- no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
ever used.
And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > addresses equals multipleconversations.
Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
manually separate or group these conversations.
> Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> Frankenstein's Monster email.
> My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> ever used.
> And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
This repeated pat answer does not demonstrate any willingness on the
part of Google to address the needs of Gmail users. Grouping emails
into conversations is a good idea, but only when a user approaches
emails as conversations. For many purposes this is not only
inconvenient behavior of an email interface, it can be positively
disastrous to a business relationship. If a sender happens to pick a
subject line of an old conversation, a brand new email can be
effectively lost, as it does not appear to be a new and discrete
message. I have completely ceased use of the Gmail web interface for
this reason. In my business, familiar subject lines are used
repeatedly by the same senders, and conversation grouping is
farcically inefficient in that context. Google needs to make this
"feature" optional. The rote suggestion to change a subject line to
start a new thread is an obtuse and condescending way of telling users
that their needs are unimportant to Google.
> Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
> conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
> or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
> manually separate or group these conversations.
> if the subject line changes then it will start a new thread
> On Jun 17, 3:23 pm, Are We Not Men ? wrote:
> > No way to disable "conversations"??
> > Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> > becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> > to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> > not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> > robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> > Frankenstein's Monster email.
> > My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> > Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> > off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> > and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> > has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> > is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> > Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> > - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> > almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> > till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> > using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> > have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> > ever used.
> > And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> > don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
> This repeated pat answer does not demonstrate any willingness on the
> part of Google to address the needs of Gmail users. Grouping emails
> into conversations is a good idea, but only when a user approaches
> emails as conversations. For many purposes this is not only
> inconvenient behavior of an email interface, it can be positively
> disastrous to a business relationship. If a sender happens to pick a
> subject line of an old conversation, a brand new email can be
> effectively lost, as it does not appear to be a new and discrete
> message. I have completely ceased use of the Gmail web interface for
> this reason. In my business, familiar subject lines are used
> repeatedly by the same senders, and conversation grouping is
> farcically inefficient in that context. Google needs to make this
> "feature" optional. The rote suggestion to change a subject line to
> start a new thread is an obtuse and condescending way of telling users
> that their needs are unimportant to Google.
> > Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
> > conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
> > or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
> > manually separate or group these conversations.
> > if the subject line changes then it will start a new thread
> > On Jun 17, 3:23 pm, Are We Not Men ? wrote:
> > > No way to disable "conversations"??
> > > Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> > > becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> > > to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> > > not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> > > robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> > > Frankenstein's Monster email.
> > > My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> > > Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> > > off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> > > and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> > > has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> > > is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> > > Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> > > - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> > > almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> > > till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> > > using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> > > have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> > > ever used.
> > > And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> > > don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > > > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > > > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > > > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
> This repeated pat answer does not demonstrate any willingness on the
> part of Google to address the needs of Gmail users. Grouping emails
> into conversations is a good idea, but only when a user approaches
> emails as conversations. For many purposes this is not only
> inconvenient behavior of an email interface, it can be positively
> disastrous to a business relationship. If a sender happens to pick a
> subject line of an old conversation, a brand new email can be
> effectively lost, as it does not appear to be a new and discrete
> message. I have completely ceased use of the Gmail web interface for
> this reason. In my business, familiar subject lines are used
> repeatedly by the same senders, and conversation grouping is
> farcically inefficient in that context. Google needs to make this
> "feature" optional. The rote suggestion to change a subject line to
> start a new thread is an obtuse and condescending way of telling users
> that their needs are unimportant to Google.
> > Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
> > conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
> > or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
> > manually separate or group these conversations.
> > if the subject line changes then it will start a new thread
> > On Jun 17, 3:23 pm, Are We Not Men ? wrote:
> > > No way to disable "conversations"??
> > > Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> > > becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> > > to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> > > not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> > > robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> > > Frankenstein's Monster email.
> > > My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> > > Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> > > off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> > > and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> > > has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> > > is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> > > Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> > > - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> > > almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> > > till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> > > using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> > > have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> > > ever used.
> > > And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> > > don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > > > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > > > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > > > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
I apologize for wrongly associating you with Google. It was a mistaken
impression fostered by the fact that in searching for the answer to
this problem, I have found identical comments authored by you which
tow the company line that conversation view is necessarily better and
offer no indication that you think there might be a legitimate reason
someone might not want this mandatory feature of Gmail.
Perhaps your contributions to threads on this subject would be
received more warmly if you were to present them more like this:
"I`m sorry, but the conversation threading can not be turned off. If
you
change the subject line, it will start a new thread. I agree that the
inability to turn off conversation view is a failing of Gmail which
should
be addressed. Google has provided a place for you to make such
suggestions here:
bkennely's post above displayed that kind of helpfulness without
making me feel that my way of reading email is defective. If you don't
want to be mistaken for a Google representative, you might try
sounding like you think they may have possibly made a mistake.
> Also We all are Gmail users on this group AND NOT GOOGLE EMPLOYEES
> who Volunteer our Time on these Group.
> and only Google employees post on these group is the Gmail Guides with
> Blue G Badges.
> On Jul 5, 4:51 am, CordlessCarrots wrote:
> > This repeated pat answer does not demonstrate any willingness on the
> > part of Google to address the needs of Gmail users. Grouping emails
> > into conversations is a good idea, but only when a user approaches
> > emails as conversations. For many purposes this is not only
> > inconvenient behavior of an email interface, it can be positively
> > disastrous to a business relationship. If a sender happens to pick a
> > subject line of an old conversation, a brand new email can be
> > effectively lost, as it does not appear to be a new and discrete
> > message. I have completely ceased use of the Gmail web interface for
> > this reason. In my business, familiar subject lines are used
> > repeatedly by the same senders, and conversation grouping is
> > farcically inefficient in that context. Google needs to make this
> > "feature" optional. The rote suggestion to change a subject line to
> > start a new thread is an obtuse and condescending way of telling users
> > that their needs are unimportant to Google.
> > > Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
> > > conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
> > > or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
> > > manually separate or group these conversations.
> > > if the subject line changes then it will start a new thread
> > > On Jun 17, 3:23 pm, Are We Not Men ? wrote:
> > > > No way to disable "conversations"??
> > > > Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> > > > becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> > > > to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> > > > not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> > > > robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> > > > Frankenstein's Monster email.
> > > > My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> > > > Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> > > > off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> > > > and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> > > > has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> > > > is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> > > > Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> > > > - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> > > > almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> > > > till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> > > > using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> > > > have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> > > > ever used.
> > > > And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> > > > don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > > > > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > > > > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > > > > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > > > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > > > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > > > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > > > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > > > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
Some of us use cut-and-paste portions from the help center in the
interest of time. And not everyone necessarily feels that the
inability to turn off conversation is a failing. Don't forget, gmail
was designed for personal use. (If you want to get really picky about
it, technically speaking, business use can be considered a TOS
violation. Just sayin'.)
> I apologize for wrongly associating you with Google. It was a mistaken
> impression fostered by the fact that in searching for the answer to
> this problem, I have found identical comments authored by you which
> tow the company line that conversation view is necessarily better and
> offer no indication that you think there might be a legitimate reason
> someone might not want this mandatory feature of Gmail.
> Perhaps your contributions to threads on this subject would be
> received more warmly if you were to present them more like this:
> "I`m sorry, but the conversation threading can not be turned off. If
> you
> change the subject line, it will start a new thread. I agree that the
> inability to turn off conversation view is a failing of Gmail which
> should
> be addressed. Google has provided a place for you to make such
> suggestions here:
> bkennely's post above displayed that kind of helpfulness without
> making me feel that my way of reading email is defective. If you don't
> want to be mistaken for a Google representative, you might try
> sounding like you think they may have possibly made a mistake.
> > Also We all are Gmail users on this group AND NOT GOOGLE EMPLOYEES
> > who Volunteer our Time on these Group.
> > and only Google employees post on these group is the Gmail Guides with
> > Blue G Badges.
> > On Jul 5, 4:51 am, CordlessCarrots wrote:
> > > This repeated pat answer does not demonstrate any willingness on the
> > > part of Google to address the needs of Gmail users. Grouping emails
> > > into conversations is a good idea, but only when a user approaches
> > > emails as conversations. For many purposes this is not only
> > > inconvenient behavior of an email interface, it can be positively
> > > disastrous to a business relationship. If a sender happens to pick a
> > > subject line of an old conversation, a brand new email can be
> > > effectively lost, as it does not appear to be a new and discrete
> > > message. I have completely ceased use of the Gmail web interface for
> > > this reason. In my business, familiar subject lines are used
> > > repeatedly by the same senders, and conversation grouping is
> > > farcically inefficient in that context. Google needs to make this
> > > "feature" optional. The rote suggestion to change a subject line to
> > > start a new thread is an obtuse and condescending way of telling users
> > > that their needs are unimportant to Google.
> > > > Gmail considers a number of factors when grouping messages into
> > > > conversations, but from time to time messages are improperly grouped
> > > > or separated. At the moment, Gmail doesn't offer the functionality to
> > > > manually separate or group these conversations.
> > > > if the subject line changes then it will start a new thread
> > > > On Jun 17, 3:23 pm, Are We Not Men ? wrote:
> > > > > No way to disable "conversations"??
> > > > > Please say it isn't true! I can never find my new mail because it all
> > > > > becomes a tab on an old email that is already marked "read". There has
> > > > > to be a way to disable this stupidity. I want new mail to be new mail,
> > > > > not be shoved to the bottom of a stack of old mail. I don't want some
> > > > > robot cutting and pasting my email messages together into a
> > > > > Frankenstein's Monster email.
> > > > > My company forces me to use gmail because our ISP forces us to use it.
> > > > > Every single bug and defect of gmail that I have tried to fix or turn
> > > > > off in settings has turned out to be something Google broke on purpose
> > > > > and called it a "feature"! Worse yet, every question I have ever asked
> > > > > has been answered "NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT!" Google knows best. Google
> > > > > is god. All users are stupid and worthless.
> > > > > Google has the only email I know of that says "you will do it our way
> > > > > - no options, no exceptions!" I have been using using computers for
> > > > > almost 20 years, and doing email for over 15 years with no problems
> > > > > till I got stuck in the vortex of gmail chaos. We had more options
> > > > > using the old DOS batch files. Google's email is the worst email I
> > > > > have tried and possibly the worst software of any kind that I have
> > > > > ever used.
> > > > > And, there do not seem to be any plans to fix it in the future. They
> > > > > don't even notice that it is broken. YUCK!
> > > > > > i`m sorry but the conversation threading can not be turn off. if you
> > > > > > changed the subject line it will start a new thread.
> > > > > > On May 20, 11:32 am, LordAlgonQuin wrote:
> > > > > > > Can Idisableconversationsso I can read my messages normally?
> > > > > > > Whenever I forward e-mails or send an e-mail to multiple users, it all
> > > > > > > ends up in the same conversation. I don't know which message people
> > > > > > > are responding to. Gmail fails to recognize that multiple user
> > > > > > > addresses equals multipleconversations.- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
