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pamwink...@gmail.com  
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 More options Dec 3 2008, 11:10 pm
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From: pamwink...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:10:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 11:10 pm
Subject: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies
I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there’s no
conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,
author to reader. I believe there was some stuff at the beginning
about how the ‘reader’ doesn’t remember that this situation is true.
I think I found it online within the last five years or so, but I've
got no idea where now. I’m pretty sure I read it in a book when I was
younger, in the last 10-15 years.

I’ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson’s "All the Myriad Ways" or
Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.

Does anyone remember this story?


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Discussion subject changed to "YASID (Was Re: Science fiction hunt): No one ever dies" by Joseph Nebus
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 More options Dec 3 2008, 11:44 pm
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From: nebu...@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus)
Date: 3 Dec 2008 13:44:33 -0500
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 11:44 pm
Subject: YASID (Was Re: Science fiction hunt): No one ever dies

pamwink...@gmail.com writes:
>I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
>dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
>likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there=92s no
>conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
>and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,
>author to reader. I believe there was some stuff at the beginning
>about how the =91reader=92 doesn=92t remember that this situation is true.
>I think I found it online within the last five years or so, but I've
>got no idea where now. I=92m pretty sure I read it in a book when I was
>younger, in the last 10-15 years.
>I=92ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson=92s "All the Myriad Ways" or
>Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.
>Does anyone remember this story?

        I do not --- I have to admit I'd think Greg Egan for the
consciousness-hopping-around-probability stuff, though --- but with
the YASID in the subject line maybe the folks who do actually
remember what they read will chime in.  

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Discussion subject changed to "YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies" by Dan Goodman
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 More options Dec 4 2008, 1:44 am
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From: "Dan Goodman" <dsg...@iphouse.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 14:44:01 -0600
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Subject: YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies

pamwink...@gmail.com wrote:
> I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
> dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
> likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there’s no
> conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
> and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,
> author to reader. I believe there was some stuff at the beginning
> about how the ‘reader’ doesn’t remember that this situation is true.
> I think I found it online within the last five years or so, but I've
> got no idea where now. I’m pretty sure I read it in a book when I was
> younger, in the last 10-15 years.

> I’ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson’s "All the Myriad Ways"

The only story of that title is by Larry Niven.

or

> Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.

> Does anyone remember this story?

I remember several which _almost_ fit.

Suggestion:  If you remember ANY details which are too unimportant to
mention, mention them.  You never know what will spark someone's memory.

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 More options Dec 4 2008, 1:52 am
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Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:52:35 +0000 (UTC)
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Subject: Re: YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies
In article <4936ef91$0$90338$80460...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,

        You know, I'm thinking it's probably Wilson's "Divided by
Infinity." It was collected in:

    * Starlight 2, (1998, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, Tor, 0-312-86184-2, $24.95, 320pp, hc, anth)

    * The Year's Best Science Fiction: Sixteenth Annual Collection, (Jun 1999, Gardner Dozois, St. Martin's Griffin, 0-312-20445-0, $17.95, lix+609pp, tp, anth) Cover: Bob Eggleton - [VERIFIED]

    * The Year's Best Science Fiction: Sixteenth Annual Collection, (Jun 1999, Gardner Dozois, St. Martin's Press, 0-312-20963-0, $29.95, lix+609pp, hc, anth) Cover: Bob Eggleton

    * The Year's Best Science Fiction: Sixteenth Annual Collection, (Aug 1999, Gardner Dozois, St. Martin's / SFBC, #02285, $14.98, lix+609pp, hc, anth) Cover: Bob Eggleton

    * Starlight 2, (Oct 1999, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, Tor, 0-312-86312-8, $14.95, 320pp, tp, anth) Cover: Jeff Adams - [VERIFIED]

    * The Perseids and Other Stories, (Aug 2000, Robert Charles Wilson, Tor, 0-312-87374-3, $22.95, 224pp, hc, coll) Cover: Stephan Martiniere - [VERIFIED]

    * The Perseids and Other Stories, (Jul 2001, Robert Charles Wilson, Orb, 0-312-87524-X, $12.95, 224pp, tp, coll) Cover: Stephan Martiniere - [VERIFIED]
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Discussion subject changed to "YASID (Was Re: Science fiction hunt): No one ever dies" by Rich Horton
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 More options Dec 4 2008, 8:28 am
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From: Rich Horton <rrhor...@prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:28:36 -0600
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Subject: Re: YASID (Was Re: Science fiction hunt): No one ever dies

>pamwink...@gmail.com writes:

>>I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
>>dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
>>likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there=92s no
>>conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
>>and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,
>>author to reader. I believe there was some stuff at the beginning
>>about how the =91reader=92 doesn=92t remember that this situation is true.
>>I think I found it online within the last five years or so, but I've
>>got no idea where now. I=92m pretty sure I read it in a book when I was
>>younger, in the last 10-15 years.

>>I=92ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson=92s "All the Myriad Ways" or
>>Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.

"All the Myriad Ways" is by Larry Niven. The Robert Charles Wilson
story that might apply is "Divided by Infinity". That seems possibly
the story you're thinking of ...

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Discussion subject changed to "Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies" by Bryan Derksen
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From: Bryan Derksen <bryan.derk...@shaw.ca>
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:17:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies

pamwink...@gmail.com wrote:
> I’ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson’s "All the Myriad Ways" or
> Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.

All the Myriad Ways is by Niven, not Wilson.

> Does anyone remember this story?

I don't, but the phenomenon itself is known as "quantum immortality" (or
"quantum suicide", after the thought experiment that's commonly used to
illustrate it).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_immortality and, perhaps containing
your YASID,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_quantum_immortality_...


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Discussion subject changed to "YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies" by Steve Harclerode
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From: "Steve Harclerode" <Camel.Software...@hot.mail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 22:42:31 -0800
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Subject: Re: YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies

"James Nicoll" <jdnic...@panix.com> wrote in message

news:gh6rij$78h$1@reader1.panix.com...
> In article <4936ef91$0$90338$80460...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,
> Dan Goodman <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>>pamwink...@gmail.com wrote:

>>> I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
>>> dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
>>> likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there's no
> You know, I'm thinking it's probably Wilson's "Divided by
> Infinity." It was collected in:

>    * Starlight 2, (1998, Patrick Nielsen Hayden, Tor, 0-312-86184-2,
> $24.95, 320pp, hc, anth)

[lots of references snipped]

I think you're right, I found it online here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=P15cRWeK_gwC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=%...

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 05:57:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies
On 3 Dec, 18:10, pamwink...@gmail.com wrote:

> I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
> dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
> likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there’s no
> conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
> and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,
> author to reader. I believe there was some stuff at the beginning
> about how the ‘reader’ doesn’t remember that this situation is true.
> I think I found it online within the last five years or so, but I've
> got no idea where now. I’m pretty sure I read it in a book when I was
> younger, in the last 10-15 years.

> I’ve been recommended Robert Charles Wilson’s "All the Myriad Ways" or
> Harlan Ellison, but neither seems to be what I want.

> Does anyone remember this story?

A story this reminded me of at first, though it does not fit the
description or indeed the timing, is Alastair Reynolds' "Everlasting",
which was in Interzone 193 (I think the last Pringle one) in 2004.

It "features a journey through snowy treacherous roads by Moria
Curbishley to the remote home of an old college friend. Ian lives an
isolated life, and is in one of his depressive moods. She fears that
he may be suicidal, but it is far more complex - he has come to the
conclusion that they are living in an Earth which has the odds stacked
in favour of longevity : out of all the quantum Earths, the dice on
this Earth are loaded in our favour. Or, more appropriately, the
chambers in the revolver with which he is set to play Russian Roulette
will always end up with the empty one. "
http://www.bestsf.net/reviews/interzone193.html

SPOILER

Of course, Russian Roulette guy tries it out, and dies - but he is not
the POV character. But Moira is the POV character...

I thought the story was effective, though the reviewer above didn't
think so much of it. Basically, it toys with the question of what any
of us know about death - none of us reading this now, obviously, has
ever died. It only ever happens to other people. How, in fact, do we
know that we CAN die? - or rather, how do I know that I can die?
Perhaps I can't.

Nick


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