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  <title type="text">rec.arts.sf.written Google Group</title>
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  Discussion of written science fiction and fantasy.
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  <updated>2008-12-04T07:18:23Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>J Moreno</name>
  <email>pl...@newsreaders.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-12-04T07:18:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/534484efa1a4bc31/6eb8c98a505b99d9?show_docid=6eb8c98a505b99d9</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Anti-science fantasy</title>
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  No it hasn&#39;t. It&#39;s not being used to investigate a particular part of &lt;br&gt; the world, but that&#39;s not going awry, that&#39;s not having gotten around to &lt;br&gt; it yet. &lt;br&gt; And given that magic is influenced by thoughts, it&#39;s not really clear &lt;br&gt; that the technology to adequately use science to investigate it exists &lt;br&gt; just yet.
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  <author>
  <name>David DeLaney</name>
  <email>d...@gatekeeper.vic.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-12-04T03:59:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/99361cb802b35fb8/68bf13c38448eaeb?show_docid=68bf13c38448eaeb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/99361cb802b35fb8/68bf13c38448eaeb?show_docid=68bf13c38448eaeb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF</title>
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  Slouch away, maybe. &lt;br&gt; Dave
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  <author>
  <name>Steve Harclerode</name>
  <email>camel.software...@hot.mail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-12-04T06:42:31Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: YASID Re: Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies</title>
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  [lots of references snipped] &lt;br&gt; I think you&#39;re right, I found it online here: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books?id=P15cRWeK_gwC&amp;pg=PA161&amp;lpg=PA161&amp;dq=%22divided+by+infinity%22+wilson&amp;source=web&amp;ots=w6efsEz3s_&amp;sig=ylNxG-vA4c1ByCyLLDGU6zS8Roc&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ct=result#PPA178,M1&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Wayne Throop</name>
  <email>thro...@sheol.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T05:57:12Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Anti-science fantasy</title>
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  I still don&#39;t see it as Harry saying science has gone awry. &lt;br&gt; People apply science to magic, when they admit to themselves that it &lt;br&gt; exists. The reasons why people don&#39;t admit that it exists seem to be &lt;br&gt; twofold; first, people/political/whatnot reasons, and second, there seems &lt;br&gt; to be a magical suppression of memory. Or at least, I conclude there are
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  <author>
  <name>Kay Shapero</name>
  <email>k...@invalid.net</email>
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  <updated>2008-12-04T05:38:47Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: Want a Kindle before Christmas? Get ready to pay</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;F-WdnX9BSKMQOavUnZ2dnUVZ_snin ...@giganews.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; louan...@yahoo.com says... &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve got one of those things on my DS light but didn&#39;t know they made &lt;br&gt; one for the TX. Who makes it and where can I find it?
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  <author>
  <name>Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy</name>
  <email>tausti...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2008-12-04T05:35:02Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/534484efa1a4bc31/df72926764ce4c08?show_docid=df72926764ce4c08"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Anti-science fantasy</title>
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  peachy ashie passion &amp;lt;exquisitepe...@hotmail.com&amp;gt; wrote in &lt;br&gt; It doesn&#39;t have to be untrue to be retarded. And while it is &lt;br&gt; technically not untrue, it is presented in such a was as to imply an &lt;br&gt; untrue claim, namely that science has not improved our lives in any &lt;br&gt; way.
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  <author>
  <name>Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy</name>
  <email>tausti...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T05:33:42Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: eBook Ignoramus Authors</title>
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  thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote in &lt;br&gt; It all depends on what you&#39;re doing. As I have said, when I do &lt;br&gt; something where regular expressions would be useful, I&#39;m usually &lt;br&gt; doing other stuff where using VB and Access is rather more useful, &lt;br&gt; and more to my liking.
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  <author>
  <name>Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy</name>
  <email>tausti...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T05:32:11Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: eBook Ignoramus Authors</title>
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  thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote in &lt;br&gt; You&#39;re a freak. &lt;br&gt; See above. &lt;br&gt; The basic principles are simple enough, but they are limited enough &lt;br&gt; in acutal use that there are any number of other ways of doing the &lt;br&gt; same thing. True understanding is not intuitive, and can get as &lt;br&gt; complicated as need be to do the job.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>James Nicoll</name>
  <email>jdnic...@panix.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T05:10:26Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/2450b4cf5c9073fa/fc76e197ba142962?show_docid=fc76e197ba142962"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Critters in SF</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;w6GZk.9247$be.1...@nlpi061.nb dc.sbc.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; I am the exact opposite of invulnerable. &lt;br&gt; Did I mention I noticed a place on my right shoulder that &lt;br&gt; isn&#39;t scarred? It is as though my mother dipped me in the River &lt;br&gt; Styx but only dipped that one small patch.
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  <author>
  <name>Moriarty</name>
  <email>blue...@ivillage.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:40:27Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/534484efa1a4bc31/49f4e7ab95c73b88?show_docid=49f4e7ab95c73b88"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Anti-science fantasy</title>
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  Clearly a fantasy rather than science fiction. &lt;br&gt; -Moriarty
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Joseph Nebus</name>
  <email>nebu...@-rpi-.edu</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:35:10Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: What an epic thread! [Was: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF]</title>
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  In this way we&#39;re breeding a higher class of spam, one that&#39;s &lt;br&gt; interesting enough to almost become content again.
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  <author>
  <name>Lawrence Watt-Evans</name>
  <email>l...@sff.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:38:31Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/527d85b1b914e8d8/277bd3eba4ea44a4?show_docid=277bd3eba4ea44a4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF</title>
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  On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:57:47 GMT, P. Taine &amp;lt;u...@domaine.invalid&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; I had four sisters. I learned young.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Gene</name>
  <email>g...@chewbacca.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:33:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/41d805be02a885cf/b32b33031125fbc5?show_docid=b32b33031125fbc5</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/41d805be02a885cf/b32b33031125fbc5?show_docid=b32b33031125fbc5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: One Last Ken Hogan Note</title>
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  &amp;quot;Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)&amp;quot; &amp;lt;seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com&amp;gt; rote in news:gh7ln0 &lt;br&gt; $ct...@news.motzarella.org: &lt;br&gt; I got along pretty well with him because I could see that attempts to educate &lt;br&gt; him like Wayne&#39;s weren&#39;t going to work. He had too much difficulty expressing &lt;br&gt; his point and understanding other people&#39;s. But I was saddened I never got to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rebecca Rice</name>
  <email>philosphe...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:31:16Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/fed43f4eb546a6bc/3ac812ac5ae58434?show_docid=3ac812ac5ae58434</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/fed43f4eb546a6bc/3ac812ac5ae58434?show_docid=3ac812ac5ae58434"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Review: Duainfey by Lee&amp;Miller</title>
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  It doesn&#39;t have that feel to the story. This is solidly &lt;br&gt; fantasy/romance, no science fiction vibe to it. &lt;br&gt; And I will give the authors props for getting the romance &lt;br&gt; tropes right. If they ever need easy money, they could &lt;br&gt; easily churn out some standard Regency/Georgian/Gothic &lt;br&gt; romance books. In fact, for about the first third of the
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)</name>
  <email>seaw...@sgeinc.invalid.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-04T04:29:00Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com.pk/group/rec.arts.sf.written/browse_thread/thread/64464639b8d44972/66bd1afc6c99d2da?show_docid=66bd1afc6c99d2da"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Soon (?) to be a Major Motion Picture?</title>
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  The imagery looks dead on. &lt;br&gt; Now, the actual movie could still be totally screwed up. &lt;br&gt; And I wonder if even well done you can get away without the Huge &lt;br&gt; Honking Logical Hole in the Villain&#39;s Master Plan ending up screaming at &lt;br&gt; you. It&#39;s ... not exactly concealed, but you&#39;re distracted from noticing
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