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Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:26:58 UT

There's an Australian poet, A. D. Hope, who put this in the most
thoughtful terms I can imagine:
ADVICE TO YOUNG LADIES
A.U.C. 334: about this date,
For a sexual misdemeanour which she denied,
The vestal virgin Postumia was tried;
Livy records it among affairs of state.
They let her off: it seems she was perfectly pure;

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

k...@busiek.com (Kurt Busiek) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:25:00 UT

No, it makes them arguments of math and logic, rather than arguments
about what would actually happen. Ryk accepted the premise in
responding to it, so wiping out the premise wipes out his answer, as
well, since it's predicated on the premise.
After all, if I asy, "If you have three cookies, and you give me two

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:19:11 UT

You're . . . kind of an idiot, John.

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:17:34 UT

Scientific studies show this to not be true.
Straight men may not consciously be aroused by penises, or may deny it
when asked, but psychological studies have shown that straight men are
aroused by the presence of penises in their porn.
If nothing else, I suppose as something with which they can identify,

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:11:51 UT

You or others might finding reading _The Corner: A Year in the Life of
an Inner-City Neighborhood_ instructive on this point.

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:09:42 UT

There is a great scene in the HBO series _The Wire_ where Bubbles, an
addict who works as an informant for the Baltimore police, is evaluating
the appearance of Detective Sydnor in preparation for taking him out
undercover to buy some drugs and get photographs of the hand-to-hand sales.
Having not showered in a week or shaved in two, Sydnor's dirty enough,

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

k...@busiek.com (Kurt Busiek) — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:02:04 UT

See other comments about word problems, premises and math.
kdb

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mhacdebhan...@invalid.com (Christopher Adams) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:58:52 UT

Well, you're a charmingly stupid cunt.

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:46:58 UT

The hypothetical is that the price is raised the instant the
vouchers come out. Further, even if there's a finite time lag where
the price has not been raised, that doesn't help any argument that
there's a net steady-state benefit, which seems to be the point.
Wayne Throop thro...@sheol.org [link]

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mstem...@siemens-emis.com (Michael Stemper) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:48:11 UT

If you say so. The Wikipedia page that your link points to says nothing
about "naked", "half-naked", "heterosexual", or "lifestyle", so it's kind
of hard for somebody who's never been to this event to know that. The
Wikipedia page does say: "It was held as a political demonstration for
peace and international understanding through music."

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:26:31 UT

Shrug. If somebody says "if the moon is made of green cheeze,
then two plus two equals five", it's still meaningful to note that
two plus two would equal four even if the moon is made of green cheeze.
Not nearly as interesting as to note that the moon is *not* made of
green cheeze, but not totally meaningless either.

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

mstem...@siemens-emis.com (Michael Stemper) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:40:05 UT

Especially in this case, yes.

Re: Male vs Female viewpoints in SF

exquisitepe...@hotmail.com (peachy ashie passion) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:33:17 UT

Except not if the schools raised the price by the amount of the voucher.

Ender in Exile background assistance requested.

jwrag...@gmail.com (pmfan57) — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:24:07 UT

It's been so long since I have read the original 4 Ender Books, and re-
read Ender's Game itself a few years later, that I have forgotten how
much of what I am reading in the new Ender in Exile is just an
expansion of what was previously discussed in the earlier books.
So far in my reading, Ender has just landed on the former bugger

Science fiction hunt: No one ever dies

pamwink...@gmail.com — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:10:33 UT

I read once a science fiction story which postulates that no one ever
dies. As any one person dies, their consciousness leaps to a less-
likely version of themselves which lives on. However, there’s no
conflict if other people die, so everyone ends up permanently alone
and end up mad because of it. It was written in a very direct style,