aemeijers <aemeij...@att.net> wrote: > Yer Pal Al wrote: > > On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > >> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, > >> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> >>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: > >>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, > >>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... > >>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com. > >>>>>> .. > >>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone to > >>>>>>> fuck. > >>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. > >>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having > >>>>> sex, > >>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. > >>>> Marriage is a sham. > >>> Recently divorced? > >> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole > >> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> > You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> > Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in > > school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children > > out of wedlock.
> > Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids, than > a couple locked in battle royal and other melodrama (like ten years of > icy silence to each other), to the point where the kids hide under their > beds, or worse, are simply invisible. Not to mention the usual villains > of one parent being a drunk or druggie, or abusive. Sure, a reasonably > happy and stable 2-parent household where the kids have a model of what > an adult relationship is supposed to be like, is best. But if that isn't > happening, yes, the kids are better off with just the saner parent, or > elsewhere. 'Staying together for the kids' is almost always a crock. Not > saying people shouldn't give their marriages an honest effort, but once > it fails, be realistic.
Exactly. Marriages are a sham. Just like religion and government.
<lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > In article <lL2ck.99005$102.26...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> aemeijers <aemeij...@att.net> wrote: > > Yer Pal Al wrote: > > > On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > > >> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, > > >> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> > >>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: > > >>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, > > >>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... > > >>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com. > > >>>>>> .. > > >>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone to > > >>>>>>> fuck. > > >>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. > > >>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having > > >>>>> sex, > > >>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. > > >>>> Marriage is a sham. > > >>> Recently divorced? > > >> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole > > >> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> > > You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> > > Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in > > > school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children > > > out of wedlock.
> > > Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids, than > > a couple locked in battle royal and other melodrama (like ten years of > > icy silence to each other), to the point where the kids hide under their > > beds, or worse, are simply invisible. Not to mention the usual villains > > of one parent being a drunk or druggie, or abusive. Sure, a reasonably > > happy and stable 2-parent household where the kids have a model of what > > an adult relationship is supposed to be like, is best. But if that isn't > > happening, yes, the kids are better off with just the saner parent, or > > elsewhere. 'Staying together for the kids' is almost always a crock. Not > > saying people shouldn't give their marriages an honest effort, but once > > it fails, be realistic.
> Exactly. Marriages are a sham. Just like religion and government.
So you are OK with the trend - especially with blacks, which is now over 50% - to have more single parent households?
<lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > In article <lL2ck.99005$102.26...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> aemeijers <aemeij...@att.net> wrote: > > Yer Pal Al wrote: > > > On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > > >> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, > > >> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> > >>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: > > >>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, > > >>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... > > >>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com. > > >>>>>> .. > > >>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>> fuck. > > >>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. > > >>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before > > >>>>> having > > >>>>> sex, > > >>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. > > >>>> Marriage is a sham. > > >>> Recently divorced? > > >> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole > > >> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> > > You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> > > Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in > > > school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children > > > out of wedlock.
> > > Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids, than > > a couple locked in battle royal and other melodrama (like ten years of > > icy silence to each other), to the point where the kids hide under their > > beds, or worse, are simply invisible. Not to mention the usual villains > > of one parent being a drunk or druggie, or abusive. Sure, a reasonably > > happy and stable 2-parent household where the kids have a model of what > > an adult relationship is supposed to be like, is best. But if that isn't > > happening, yes, the kids are better off with just the saner parent, or > > elsewhere. 'Staying together for the kids' is almost always a crock. Not > > saying people shouldn't give their marriages an honest effort, but once > > it fails, be realistic.
> Exactly. Marriages are a sham. Just like religion and government.
So you are OK with the trend - especially with blacks, which is now over 50% - to have more single parent households?
~~~~ It's the liberal way. Everyone can be miserable as long as they're all equal about it.
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> Yer Pal Al wrote: >> On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: >>> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, >>> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
>>>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: >>>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, >>>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... >>>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone to >>>>>>>> fuck. >>>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. >>>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having >>>>>> sex, >>>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. >>>>> Marriage is a sham. >>>> Recently divorced? >>> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole >>> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
>> You didn't want your parents to stay together?
>> Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in >> school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children >> out of wedlock.
>> Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
LG -- Failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently. - Henry Ford
> On Jul 6, 5:42 am, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > > In article <lL2ck.99005$102.26...@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > aemeijers <aemeij...@att.net> wrote: > > > Yer Pal Al wrote: > > > > On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > > > > <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > > > >> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, > > > >> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> > > >>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: > > > >>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ uidn...@posted.localnet>, > > > >>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > >>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>>news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ r7in...@cablespeedwa.com... > > > >>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >>>>>>news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.c > > > >>>>>>om. > > > >>>>>> .. > > > >>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone > > > >>>>>>> to > > > >>>>>>> fuck. > > > >>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. > > > >>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having > > > >>>>> sex, > > > >>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. > > > >>>> Marriage is a sham. > > > >>> Recently divorced? > > > >> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole > > > >> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> > > > You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> > > > Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in > > > > school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children > > > > out of wedlock.
> > > > Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> > > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids, than > > > a couple locked in battle royal and other melodrama (like ten years of > > > icy silence to each other), to the point where the kids hide under their > > > beds, or worse, are simply invisible. Not to mention the usual villains > > > of one parent being a drunk or druggie, or abusive. Sure, a reasonably > > > happy and stable 2-parent household where the kids have a model of what > > > an adult relationship is supposed to be like, is best. But if that isn't > > > happening, yes, the kids are better off with just the saner parent, or > > > elsewhere. 'Staying together for the kids' is almost always a crock. Not > > > saying people shouldn't give their marriages an honest effort, but once > > > it fails, be realistic.
> > Exactly. Marriages are a sham. Just like religion and government.
> So you are OK with the trend - especially with blacks, which is now > over 50% - to have more single parent households?
I never said anything about single-parent households. Just marriages.
> "aemeijers" <aemeij...@att.net> wrote in message > news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Yer Pal Al wrote: > >> On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" > >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: > >>> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, > >>> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
> >>>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: > >>>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, > >>>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message > >>>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... > >>>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com > >>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone to > >>>>>>>> fuck. > >>>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. > >>>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before having > >>>>>> sex, > >>>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. > >>>>> Marriage is a sham. > >>>> Recently divorced? > >>> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole > >>> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
> >> You didn't want your parents to stay together?
> >> Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in > >> school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children > >> out of wedlock.
> >> Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a > two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of > the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the > table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry > couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the > dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
Two gender job eh? So you are saying same sex couples can be the two parents if one is masculine and the other is feminine. That lib talk there, buddy.
> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is > a two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics > of the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to > the table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that > angry couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I > say the dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
Well, you're preaching to the choir on that one- a significant percentage of the people shacking up/marrying and having kids are not competent to perform any of those duties. Except for the small matter of there not being anyone competent to sit in judgment about people's skill sets, I'd say that having kids should require a training course and getting a license.
But reproduction, like love and lust, is by definition an irrational process. The genes want what the genes want. And once the kids are there, you don't get a do-over. You have to make do as best you can.
But I still say a single parent household is better than a broken 2-parent household. BTDT, from the kid side. Once they only saw each other a few hours a month, they got along a lot better. And both of them were able to devote quality time to us young ones. The older kids, separated from us younger ones by several years, said it was traumatic as hell to be going through adolescence in a battle zone.
>> "aemeijers" <aemeij...@att.net> wrote in message >> news:lL2ck.99005$102.26145@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> > Yer Pal Al wrote: >> >> On Jul 5, 9:21 pm, "Becoming something you're not [was LH]" >> >> <lfkkhjsssssssss...@lhhhhggd.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <2EXbk.184103$fz6.66...@fe08.news.easynews.com>, >> >>> Craig R <m...@whee.ls> wrote:
>> >>>> Becoming something you're not [was LH] wrote: >> >>>>> In article <W5Gdndzsw4vt2e3VnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.localnet>, >> >>>>> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> "Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDam...@cablespeed.com> wrote in message >> >>>>>> news:W6-dnTvT1pK7aPLVnZ2dnUVZ_r7inZ2d@cablespeedwa.com... >> >>>>>>> "OrangeSFO" <intangible...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >>>>>>> news:90472b84-f3a1-47b0-911d-b1f2fe121e2b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com >> >>>>>>> ... >> >>>>>>>> Republicans...they want more babies...but they don't want anyone >> >>>>>>>> to >> >>>>>>>> fuck. >> >>>>>>> Nonsense. They just don't want women to enjoy it. >> >>>>>> Completely wrong. They want all couples to be married before >> >>>>>> having >> >>>>>> sex, >> >>>>>> thereby ensuring that the MAN won't enjoy it. >> >>>>> Marriage is a sham. >> >>>> Recently divorced? >> >>> Worse. Parents stayed together until I was 18. That and the whole >> >>> problem of it being a way to control the animalistic populace.
>> >> You didn't want your parents to stay together?
>> >> Children in single parent families are more likely to do poorly in >> >> school, drop-out, take drugs, get involved in crime and have children >> >> out of wedlock.
>> >> Did you suffer from any of these pitfalls?
>> > Better a single parent with time and sanity to care about the kids,
>> No such thing. They may mean well, don't get me wrong, but parenting is a >> two person, two GENDER job. And I don't give a damn about the politics of >> the situation, the fact is men and women bring different abilities to the >> table and children benefit from them both. Rather than saying that angry >> couples should or should not stay together "for the children", I say the >> dumb selfish bastards shouldn't have had the kid(s) to begin with.
> Two gender job eh? So you are saying same sex couples can be the two > parents if one is masculine and the other is feminine. That lib talk > there, buddy.
Gender is more than role playing.
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