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mahipal7...@gmail.com  
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 More options Dec 1 2008, 9:34 pm
Newsgroups: sci.physics, sci.math, sci.lang
From: mahipal7...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 08:34:09 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 9:34 pm
Subject: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
Good day,

The links below are just a page in length.

http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.pdf    32768 Bytes
http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.dvi     fewer Bytes

Your feedback, objective or otherwise, is welcomed.

Enjo(y)...


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(1 user)  More options Dec 1 2008, 10:54 pm
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From: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 17:54:23 -0000
Local: Mon, Dec 1 2008 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)

<mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Good day,

> The links below are just a page in length.

> http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.pdf    32768 Bytes
> http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.dvi     fewer Bytes

> Your feedback, objective or otherwise, is welcomed.

> Enjo(y)...

  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/MC2.htm
  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WEAM.htm

Your feedback is not required, you've already shown your prejudice
by referring to the conniving huckster and snake oil salesman with the
title "Professor", which he never was.
Suffe(r).


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 More options Dec 2 2008, 8:27 pm
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From: mahipal7...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:27:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
On Dec 1, 12:54 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:

Albert Einstein held the position of Professor of Theoretical Physics
at Princeton.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1921/einstein-bi...

Your bias clouds your judgement.

Your suffe(r)able imitation, however insincere, is minimally
flattering.

Enjo(y).
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Mahipal
 ``We search our Earth
 and her limitless skies
 all the while discovering
 in our hearts and minds
 is where heaven lies''

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 More options Dec 2 2008, 9:01 pm
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From: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:01:56 -0000
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)

<mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Dec 1, 12:54 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:

Albert Einstein held the position of Professor of Theoretical Physics
at Princeton.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1921/einstein-bi...

Your bias clouds your judgement.

Your suffe(r)able imitation, however insincere, is minimally
flattering.

Enjo(y).
--
Mahipal
 ``We search our Earth
 and her limitless skies
 all the while discovering
 in our hearts and minds
 is where heaven lies''

http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/

Professor of theoretical fuckwittery is not a title to be proud of.
 You seem reluctant to address the mathematical capabilities
of your pathetic dork hero.
  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WEAM.htm


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 More options Dec 2 2008, 9:58 pm
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From: w...@scarlet.be
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:58:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 9:58 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)

mahipal7...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 1, 12:54 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
>> <mahipal7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.pdf 32768 Bytes
>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.dvi fewer Bytes

>>> Your feedback, objective or otherwise, is welcomed.

It seems simpler to me to see
e~m,
ie to consider e and m as values (expressed in different units) of a
same
entity "energy-mass".
My personal view is that the energy content of lightclocks (either as
gauging tools or as composing entities for matter) contributes to the
mass
content of a matter particle. I view lightclocks as the mechanism of
transforming light speed particles into infraluminal mass particles.
In this
my view, even "rest mass" would consist of lightclock energy.
I'd agree this can't be the whole story but I think it conributes to
it.
See my SR pages
http://home.scarlet.be/~pin12499/paratwin.htm#MySRT.
http://home.scarlet.be/~pin12499/qbRelaty.html

>> Your feedback is not required, you've already shown your prejudice
>> by referring to the conniving huckster and snake oil salesman with
>> the title "Professor", which he never was.
>> Suffe(r).

> Albert Einstein held the position of Professor of Theoretical Physics
> at Princeton.
> Your bias clouds your judgement.
> Your suffe(r)able imitation, however insincere, is minimally
> flattering.

I don't know if you know about him (not meaning AE of course:-), but
the
best thing you can do is to ignore him (and some others) and to
confine your
converse with people seeking genuine understanding. I know by
experience
it's tempting at times not to, but in the long run you feel happier
and more
satisfied this way

guido google wugi


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 More options Dec 3 2008, 12:44 am
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From: Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 11:44:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 12:44 am
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
On Dec 1, 11:34 am, mahipal7...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good day,

> The links below are just a page in length.

> http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.pdf
[dvi form snipped]
> Your feedback, objective or otherwise, is welcomed.

I doubt it.

Your page is bad poetry.

You *assume* that an equation isn't true. Then you
use the non-truth of that equation to prove things
that follow from a completely different equation.

This is not even wrong.

For example, since e, m, and c are all constants
in the context of the equation e=mc^2, then all the
differentials you write, de, dm, and dc, are all zero.
Thus both of the following are true.

m de - e dm = 0

m de + e dm = 0

Seriously dude, you could condier learning something
before you start waving your fingers around on your keyboard.

Heh.

When I was in first year grad school, one of the other grad
students was just finishing his PhD. And his wife was helping
him by proof-reading the manuscript. But, since she was a
law student, some of  the technical terms were troublesome.
She red-penned a paragraph that he had to very patiently
explain to her was actually perfectly fine English.

And the next day, all the grad students on the floor were
walking around muttering "I is the action but me is the mass."
Socks


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 More options Dec 3 2008, 3:00 am
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From: "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 22:00:26 -0000
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 3:00 am
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)

<w...@scarlet.be> wrote in message

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> I don't know

That's right, you don't.

f you know about him (not meaning AE of course:-), but

> the
> best thing you can do is to ignore him (and some others) and to
> confine your
> converse with people seeking genuine understanding. I know by
> experience
> it's tempting at times not to, but in the long run you feel happier
> and more
> satisfied this way

> guido google wugi

You call this crap "genuine understanding", you pathetically ignorant moron?
  http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WEAM.htm
Fuck off.
*plonk*

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 More options Dec 3 2008, 7:56 pm
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From: mahipal7...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 06:56:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
On Dec 2, 2:44 pm, Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 1, 11:34 am, mahipal7...@gmail.com wrote:

> > Good day,

> > The links below are just a page in length.

> >http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/meforce.pdf
> [dvi form snipped]
> > Your feedback, objective or otherwise, is welcomed.

> I doubt it.

> Your page is bad poetry.

I claim the meforce page as Poetic, not exactly poetry. The thought is
poetic.

> You *assume* that an equation isn't true. Then you
> use the non-truth of that equation to prove things
> that follow from a completely different equation.

> This is not even wrong.

It's logical reasoning. It's imagining. It's a written concrete
literary construct.

Besides, fumbling with math equations is freely allowed within the
constraints imposed by the Laws of Physics on human hands and writing
tools.

> For example, since e, m, and c are all constants
> in the context of the equation e=mc^2, then all the
> differentials you write, de, dm, and dc, are all zero.
> Thus both of the following are true.

> m de - e dm = 0

> m de + e dm = 0

No. The equation e=mcc is a linear equation with a constant slope;
your understanding of simple math is wrong. Both those equations are
not simultaneously true; other than in the trivial case you allude to.

> Seriously dude, you could condier learning something
> before you start waving your fingers around on your keyboard.

> Heh.

Did I not post to a disscussion group to share, to learn, and to
teach? Duh.

> When I was in first year grad school, one of the other grad
> students was just finishing his PhD. And his wife was helping
> him by proof-reading the manuscript. But, since she was a
> law student, some of  the technical terms were troublesome.
> She red-penned a paragraph that he had to very patiently
> explain to her was actually perfectly fine English.

> And the next day, all the grad students on the floor were
> walking around muttering "I is the action but me is the mass."
> Socks

You can get a bunch of students, their teachers even, to mutter many a
chant. Try reading a psych disscussion group or book, paperback or
not, for details.

Enjo(y).
--
Mahipal
 ``We search our Earth
 and her limitless skies
 all the while discovering
 in our hearts and minds
 is where heaven lies''

http://mysite.verizon.net/mahipalvirdy/


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 More options Dec 4 2008, 9:17 pm
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From: mahipal7...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:17:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2008 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
On Dec 2, 11:01 am, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics> wrote:

Your link demonstrates you could use more Math skills. For starters,
try
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/RecreationalMathematics.html

Einstein was into Physics, where Math is inherently unavoidable.
Albert was quite capable as a Mathematician, whether my hero or not.

Einstein was no more a Mathematician than he was a Violinist.

Regardless of my opinion, Albert changed our understanding of the
Universe.

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Mahipal
In Nature, birds fly without demonstrating an iota of academic
knowledge of either Physics or Maths.
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 More options Dec 4 2008, 9:29 pm
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From: Puppet_Sock <puppet_s...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:29:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2008 9:29 pm
Subject: Re: ``$me$ always changes" (A Poetic Force of Nature)
On Dec 3, 9:56 am, mahipal7...@gmail.com wrote:

See? I didn't expect feedback to be welcomed.

> > You *assume* that an equation isn't true. Then you
> > use the non-truth of that equation to prove things
> > that follow from a completely different equation.

> > This is not even wrong.

> It's logical reasoning. It's imagining. It's a written concrete
> literary construct.

It's not even reasononing, never mind logical.

Maybe if I restate it for you. Here's what you did.

    A is true.
    Assume A is not true.
    Therefore B (which is pulled out of the air and is not true
    in the context) implies C.

It is not reasononing at all. It is bad poetry.

> Besides, fumbling with math equations is freely allowed within the
> constraints imposed by the Laws of Physics on human hands and writing
> tools.

Fumbling with equations seems to be your limit.

You seriously need some remedial instruction.
I don't have the time it would take, which would be
some months at least. You need to go back to some
place around about age 15. Maybe earlier.
Socks


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